topic Re: DELL Notebook batteries ( prod. by SONY) in PCs & Accessories

DELL Notebook batteries ( prod. by SONY)

Willi000 — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:00:40 GMT

Hi,
today i read that DELL exchanges 4 Million Notebook rechargable batteries cause the could burn in some rare cases. These batteries were produced by SONY.

What you think , are now also our batteries of our VAIO Notebooks in danger ?

Re: DELL Notebook batteries ( prod. by SONY)

kee-lo_ — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:28:38 GMT

It doesn't look like Sony have responded to the claims yet, I am hoping VAIO-Link will post a message on the portal soon to let people know what's going on

Re: DELL Notebook batteries ( prod. by SONY)

Twisted-Rizla — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:17:10 GMT

Hi,
These batteries were produced by SONY.

Where did you hear that? The batteries were manufacturerd in Japan and in some cases in China but I haven't come across anything to suggest that this is a Sony issue.

Re: DELL Notebook batteries ( prod. by SONY)

HITS-UK — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:19:56 GMT

The article actually says that some batteries were used by Sony but as Kee Lo said - let's wait and see before jumping to any conclusions ...

Re: DELL Notebook batteries ( prod. by SONY)

Thalamus. — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 19:27:00 GMT

Here is link to another post on the subject Sony lithium-ion Batteries Fire Risk?

Re: DELL Notebook batteries ( prod. by SONY)

Blencogo — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:02:57 GMT

My battery doesn't last long enough to catch fire!

:smileythinking:

Re: DELL Notebook batteries ( prod. by SONY)

sand45 — Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:22:36 GMT

Re; Spontaneous Combustion & Dell Batteries

Yes, most alarming to hear about the battery problems.

My battery does not last long enough either, (just under an hour)
on my Sony VGN-A517B

Bye for now

Sand45:smileydevil:

Re: DELL Notebook batteries ( prod. by SONY)

kee-lo_ — Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:36:47 GMT

Sony's stock fell today, mainly due to the news

Re: DELL Notebook batteries ( prod. by SONY)

dennislamb — Wed, 16 Aug 2006 15:45:13 GMT

BBC on line news carries article which quotes a Sony spokesman as saying that the problem does not affect Sony laptops - it is peculiar to a particular type of computer. Whatever that means?! No further explanation given.

Re: DELL Notebook batteries ( prod. by SONY)

tweety2b — Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:53:06 GMT

Hi all,

Here is Sony's official statement on the Dell battery recall:
Actually I received an updated statement!

Select VAIO PCs utilized the battery cells called to attention in recent announcements. However, the system configurations on these Sony products do not enhance the potential of overheat incidents and differ from those of other manufacturers. We believe that they are generally very safe. At present, we have not received (nor are aware of) any incident reports related to these products. Generally, the VAIO system configuration including design, layout and power system etc. differs from other PC manufacturers. In addition VAIO adopt its own design for safety technology, and Sony considers there is no danger of emission of smoke or fire from these products.

At this time, Sony anticipates no further recalls of battery packs using these particular battery cells.

for more info please send an email to: press@eu.sony.com

Re: DELL Notebook batteries ( prod. by SONY)

Willi000 — Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:56:08 GMT


Some VAIO notebook series utilized the batteries in question, but at present we have not received such incident reports related to these products.

Yeah, because the ones where that happened are now dead and cant report anymore.....

No, thank you for your info and lets hope that our batteries are really different ones

Re: DELL Notebook batteries ( prod. by SONY)

Kazzy — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:44:42 GMT

Hi all,

Here is Sony's official statement on the Dell battery recall:

Some VAIO notebook series utilized the batteries in question, ...

So, which Vaio notebook series do we need to be concerned about ? and is it possible to check the serial number on the battery if it is an 'infected' one ?

Why has Sony not released clearer information about this?

Re: DELL Notebook batteries ( prod. by SONY)

Twisted-Rizla — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 23:24:53 GMT

I use a Dell at work and have one of the affected batteries.

Here's the Link to the Dell site which gives details of the batteries. Another one Here but I doubt if any of the codes match anything that Sony uses but there it is fyi.

Re: DELL Notebook batteries ( prod. by SONY)

Andrewmc — Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:37:38 GMT

hmm.. now this is interesting, in sonys statement above they say that this issue relates to the charging cycle used in the laptop. According to all the news reports I have heard, BBC & CNN & ABC -
quoted ABC site

"The problem was within the manufacturing process of the cell itself. Sony apparently had a tool that crimped the metal casing; in the process, some shards were created in the metal that occasionally would fall into the cathode or anode," said Roger Kay, an analyst and principal at Endpoint Technologies, who had been briefed by Dell.

"In some of those cases the shards were sharp, and in some of those cases the shards were facing the isolator," Kay added. "And, in some cases, the user banged the notebook around, piercing the isolator, causing the cathode and anode to come into contact, causing a short circuit, and starting a fire."

doesn't sound like anything to do with the charging cycle of laptop to me!!! Most likely, since these are mass produced in the same region its likely they are both sourced from the same manufacturer! - ha - its only funny to think that sony were knocking the spurious manufacturers of their batteries all over their website! - A 279euro explosive short life battery ! fantastic!

These seemingly minor manufacturing and design flaws seem to plague sony products - type, sample and routine testing on the manufacturing processes Sony use don't seem to be going far enough! If they do decide to recall the item - which I doubt they will, it will be the fifth sony product I will have bought that has suffered from some trivial issue that has significantly shortened the life of the product!!

Re: DELL Notebook batteries ( prod. by SONY)

kee-lo_ — Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:09:31 GMT

I agree with this "why isn't there more information" school of thought, it's been a bit lax from Sony, and I can see the concern, but lets look at the positives - no Sony VAIO has been reported yet to have had that explosion - if I am wrong please post

BUT I do agree with you, they really do need to be more open and honest, none of us want that to happen to us or anyone, it's very dangerous and someone could have easily been hospitalised by this.

Re: DELL Notebook batteries ( prod. by SONY)

vektor — Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:21:39 GMT

The story continues...

Now it is Apple who recalls:

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/BUSINESS/08/24/apple.recall.reut/index.html

What about our VAIOs?

Re: DELL Notebook batteries ( prod. by SONY)

kee-lo_ — Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:08:16 GMT

Very good question, I hope somone will tell us what's going on, because I find it hard to believe that DeLL and Apple could make the EXACT same mistake.

Re: DELL Notebook batteries ( prod. by SONY)

vektor — Mon, 04 Sep 2006 10:51:59 GMT

Any updates?

Apple calls back. Dell calls back some more. And there was an explosion in a living room...

How save are VAIO notebooks really? Sony, is there anything new and official about that?

Re: DELL Notebook batteries ( prod. by SONY)

kee-lo_ — Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:38:13 GMT

Nothing more official. Very annoying to say the least!

As many have said from VL, there's no reports of VAIO fires.

Re: DELL Notebook batteries ( prod. by SONY)

frannys — Tue, 05 Sep 2006 04:24:06 GMT

What makes you think they realy care at all...just a thought.